Episode Transcript

Hello everybody and welcome to the first guest segment on if I'm honest I am thrilled to be here with not only longtime friend but a racecar driver turned motorsports Reporter You can see her on NBC USA dirt vision. Ms. Hannah newhouse. Thank you so much for joining me. How are you doing? I'm so honored to be one of the first guest segments. I'm glad this panned out. Well, I remember when I posted the like that I was having a podcast and you were like, let me know if you need a guest. I will bring the wine and we are recording in the morning. So unfortunately, it's a little early for wine, but episode two we'll definitely do it. Absolutely. So Hannah, you've had an incredible career. We were talking a little before about you know, being a racecar driver exploring other things, how we got there. I've always really admired your grit and hustle and like making it work and so big fan over here. But can you take us quickly through your racing and like the main series that you competed in, and then also some of your favorite tracks and series that you raced in? Yeah, so racing synopsis second second generation racecar driver. If my dad would have had it his way, we actually probably would have been motocross racers. He was a tool enthusiast. I still think that's his first love. But when I was probably four years old, he got in a really bad dirt bike accident, and then made the decision for wheels in a roll cage for my kids. Like that's just less likely to get hurt. support that I'm a big four wheel fan I could never do too. Yeah, joke's on him though, because I still found my way into a couple casts involved in you know, go karts and in cars, but yeah, so we kind of made that transition into like go karts when I was three four, did that moved up to like create late models and create trucks when I was like 12, 13 which I now think like I see 12 year olds on the street and I cannot believe my parents ever had the gall to put me behind the wheel race car but that is a conversation for another day with them. It is mind blowing. But did that moved up into like super late models, ran regionally with some touring stuff, you know, want to track championship and super late model and then dabbled in some what was K&N West, Now ARCA West, before I made that decision, okay, I'm a big fish in a small pond out west. And if you you know, they tell you all the time you want to make it, you got to move to the east coast and packed my stuff up when I was 17 dropped out of college moved across the country and quickly found out that I was a minnow in the ocean out here on the East Coast and had to pay my bills somehow, which is how, again, a weird snowball effect I ended up here but it wouldn't have changed my journey whatsoever. And you know, you mentioned favorite racetracks. I'm biased because most of them that I raced on were West Coast tracks. But if I could pick a racetrack that I would race on every single weekend, without a doubt it would be Irwindale Speedway, which of course, is always sad because every single year I feel like we get that Irwindale Speedway turned into housing development or turned into storage units or whatever. So thankful that it's still kicking and screaming but between not one of them my home track Meridian Speedway, two very different racetracks. I've raced them both so yes, I know. Yeah, very different. Very different. But you know, the hometown feel, it's like I always say meridian is the Bowman Gray or the West Coast. We don't have as much vulgarness at maybe Meridian as they do at Bowman Gray. But nonetheless, the quarter mile was built around a football track or football, you know, stadium it's just short track racing and it's nitty gritty finest and then Irwindale Speedway is like, to me dirt racing meets pavement, because you're throwing sliders for speed. I mean, there's a great clip out there of you and me actually racing, Irwindale Speedway yeah, there it is one of the k&n races. So for non racing fans listening so some of the references Bowman, gray stadium Meridian and Irwindale. So Bowman Gray is a very short race track in the East Coast and it's known for having fights for people getting arrested. It's very sorry, it's very like trashy for lack of a better phrase. And my experience with Meridian was not quite that bad and meridian is also a really short track and when short tracks are really short, you know, there's a lot more bumping and banging there's less straight away so you have less sheer speed, but there's a lot more like kind of contact and racing actions. Irwindale is bigger at a half mile and from my memory a lot of the racing is done up by the wall. Yeah. And so instead of kind of turning in off the corner on an oval going down to the apex, the lowest point and then going back up, you're just kind of up at the wall, which was the same with actually homestead which I raced in the XFINITY series and it is so much scarier for me. I feel like that is not something that I thrive at. But I think so I know that we raced there, do we? There was one race or maybe it was at Evergreen? I don't remember but there were three women racing Were you part of that? I think it was me Nicole. Bihar. I can't remember who the third one was. Was it Brittany Zamora? Oh, it might have been because it wasn't me. Okay. I never raced a canine car there. I just reached super late. I think it was Britney Zamora. Okay. Anyway, that was cool little moment in history. Yeah. out for having three women. And now it's crazy that like pretty frequently in the Arca series, there's like three or four women. we paved, Well, we were part of the pioneers. Were there we were talking beforehand like some of the women who came before us Kenzie Ruston and Johanna Long who were also just like, total wheel women. Yeah, they're the ones that did the elbow grease me. Yeah, they did some elbow grease in for us. They did. So did you. So you grew up watching NASCAR? I'm assuming? Yeah, for the most part, probably. And people. My husband, who's a big motorsports enthusiast works in the same industry. He makes me laugh because he'll make references to like early NASCAR early racing history tidbits, and I have no idea what he's talking about can't recollect them. And he's like, Well, didn't you grew up watching it and I'm like, I probably honestly begrudgingly grew up watching it right. Like dad would sit down on the couch on Sunday. And I'm like, why are we watching this? Like I just was not I don't think I maybe had the attention span to watch it. So yes, I watched it. I can recall things but like I was not like these kids are these now adults that like, eat sleep and breathe it on Sundays, right? Like Dillon made a point to watch every IndyCar race every NASCAR race. And I was like, huh, I would much rather be outside playing in the dirt or like growing up in Idaho. Well, that's what it was. You know, just make sure you're home before the sun comes down. Yeah, yeah. So like I watched it, but Right. Yeah. And I didn't grow up watching it. I grew up watching Formula One. Okay. Yeah, Formula cars. But despite our different routes to getting to NASCAR, we have the same favorite driver in Carl Edwards. Now. I love him still love farmer Carl. Now he's a farmer. Yeah, yeah. And I think what's interesting is like, I don't feel like I have related to a lot of the NASCAR drivers, you know, being from New York, you know, we'll talk about college in a bit, but going to college and just like a very different culture. But for me with Carl Edwards, I feel like he was really classy, almost a little understated, I loved that he kind of brought legitimacy, I think, to the athleticism associated with racing that was not really acknowledged, I think for a long time. And you know, I'm saying this from kind of a distance, I've been able to speak with him a few times, but like, just good guy. And I think in any really competitive industry, the higher up you go, I think the lesson good guy people anymore. So that was like, I just, he was seemed like one of the more classy drivers to me, which I think is why I partially gravitated towards him. But what were some of the things that you loved about him. So you're gonna laugh. Because you gave this like, super knowledgeable, notable, like, here's why I love Carl Edwards. And I just remember being like a young girl and my dad being like, oh, you know, you have to pick a favorite driver. Because again, he all he wanted me to do was sit and watch NASCAR with them. And I remember being like, you know, a little teenage girl and Carla was on TV. And I was like, He's cute. Love it. And that's where the that's where it started. Now since then, similarly, so, you know, I have heard the stories about him handing out business cards to get a you know, get a ride, who's going to the racetrack finding himself to get there and handing out business cards that said, you know, if you need a driver, I'm your man. Here's my resume on a business card. Here's my contact information. That's how he ended up at Roush. He gave he gave a business card to Jack Roush, the owner and, and ended up behind the wheel. So as I got older, that was more of a draw because I respected that I was doing it. There's a picture that I have of me at Iowa Speedway in probably 2011 at an XFINITY race, and I am handing a resume and a business card similarly, so to Mike Helton, who at the time is the president of NASCAR, basically saying I don't know what you know who you know, or how you can help me, but I'm willing to do anything and everything I can and to this day when I see Mike Helton because you know he's involved in, IMSA sports car racing cause, NASCAR owns it. So he's a lot of the big IMSA races knows me by name, he'll still come up and say hello to me. And he you know, we talked about he's like, I remember this little 14, 15 year old girl that was busted a tail. And he's like, I'm so glad to see you in the industry. So that was the then turn connection of like, okay, Carl Edwards is a good looking man. But he also we connected on some other levels. So it's still cool to see you more recently, like him kind of reintegrating himself in the sport. You know, he's been at a couple of races recently, again, some q&a is, you know, part of the NASCAR great 75 deal. But I also respect his ability to just be like, you know, what, that was an amazing run, what a cool career. I'm stepping back. And that takes, you know, we you and I have had conversations about your identity and how you just link it so heavily to something and the fact that he was able to go, Okay, that was awesome. That was great. I'm gonna sit back and focus on my family, and here's what I'm gonna do and like, if that's what it takes. So I also respect that because it's hard to get caught up in this industry very quickly. Well, I think, you know, he's never really talked about like the specifics of stepping back and everything but you know, I, yeah, that transition of going having your identity be as a racecar driver exclusively to whatever's next and I think he has like teenage age kids at this point. And so really With respect to that, but it's a tough transition. And I think you and I have gone through that transition phase in different ways. And I hadn't realized before kind of doing some research for this episode, like the role that college played in that you, you because you studied some communications and broadcasting right. So you knew kind of early on the broadcast might be a way to go or am I No, okay. Oh, Wikipedia was wrong. I just need someone to go edit Hannah's Wikipedia page. Apparently, we can't edit it ourselves. No. And that's inaccurate. So I lied, but please go on. I did have some communication background. But it was only because I was taking it as like, general classes. So I was at Boise State. I graduated high school your early because I just knew that this was like, you know, why would I be stuck in Twin Falls, Idaho when I can graduate high school, get out of here. Go try and focus on racing. And my parents always told me college first then racing, so you better figure it out? Yeah. Like how are you gonna, you know, we're not gonna pay for your college and you're racing. So if you want to race, get your college paid for, wasn't an athlete had good grades graduated early, but like that's not enough to get a full ride anywhere. So I had pitched to Boise State University, I got accepted and said, Hey, I'm literally a traveling billboard traveling up and down. Five of the states that you guys have the most enrollment in from us, me, like, let's talk about this. I can go to schools beforehand, I can do promotional stuff. I can work on campus, and they loved it. And so I had a foreign scholarship at Boise State. They they plastered my car with it plastered my suit. We did all kinds of activation stuff. I was held on basically an athletic scholarship, even though it was very different. It was kind of very uncharted territory. But I had a GPA requirement, and I actually was gonna go to business school because I had thought that I wanted to work in public relations probably is not, you know, at the time, I think it was called more public relations, because this is still the early days of like Twitter and that kind of stuff. So it really was more like going in. It was more marketing. Yeah. But it was still under the PR realm at the time. And so I was gonna go to Marketing School, and I got accepted into the business school. Joke's on me, I've always known I'm really bad at math, but I'm not even kidding. It was just funny, because here you are great at math. I could not pass my math classes. And I'm talking like tutoring summer classes, could not pass them. And they were like, Hannah, this is like your second math course, like you have like four more in this business school. And I just couldn't do it. Like, and I couldn't do it and keep my GPA. If that makes sense. I probably could have skirted by with some C's, but it would have dipped my GPA. So I would have lost my scholarship. So I was like in panic mode, what do I do? So right before I moved out to the East Coast, I actually switched over to I'd had enough calm classes as just like my gen ed's because I loved my public speaking. Hmm. Ironic now. Yeah, I love my public speaking, I love my presentation classes, you know, like my lecture halls, where you were working in pitch classes. And so I'd actually switched and I was like, Okay, I felt dumb, because all the athletes all go get college degrees, because it's easy way with, quote, unquote, all of that, by the way. And so, I switched, I went ahead and switched over. But you know, I was upset because I thought I wanted to do a business degree. And again, you know, manifesting it, here I am, I this was not on my path. I did not think I was gonna end up in broadcasting, I just figured a comm degree might. Yeah, check the box of a degree somewhere, I could still get a marketing job. And, man, here we are. So it all it all manifested itself somehow? Well, I really believe that, like, you know, we don't know how each individual step that we take, or thing that we do is going to impact later on. And I think that's something that if I'm honest, I feel like I appreciated that kind of abstract sense early on, but I feel like everyone can benefit from trying to like, think about that earlier in life. And you're quite a few years younger than me, which is also super impressive. By like, this idea that we just don't know how each step we take, it might impact us immediately. It might not. And then five years later, 10 years later, and I just think that's really cool. And like, especially I would say for like, especially when things are tough, and you're trying to kind of have that perseverance and trying to figure out okay, what's next? How do I do this? How am I going to be happy? How am I going to achieve my lifestyle that I want, fulfillment professionally, whatever it is, like, I think it's a helpful reminder, like, you never know when something can come back. And I would hope that that's also helpful for listeners that like, especially if you're in a rut or a low, like, it's so important to just keep moving and like it might seem completely unrelated. And you just never know, and you never know and I feel like you embody that. I feel like I embody that and, and part of it's like taking having a can do attitude. And you know, I've talked several times on the show, like I know that I'm optimistic. I know that I'm a can do attitude. I feel like you're a pretty similar way and just kind of jump in and figure it out. Yeah, I was always told don't ever be afraid of the hustle. Yeah, like you, you've got to just embrace the hustle because it might, you know, embrace the suck is what I was always told because like, I when I moved out here we got and we can get into that, but like, I lost my ride. I was bartending. I was painting cars at car dealership, and yeah, I was painting and detailing cars, because I was like, Well, I gotta pay my bills. But I was doing that so that I could make enough money to pay my bills to freelance doing some, you know, reporting and honor stuff. And like, I feel like, you know, similarly, sort of the racing industry, the broadcasting industry is not is not stable by any standards, you might, you know, one year five year tenure contract, but they could call you tomorrow and cancel and you're out of a job. And that scares a lot of people. Because then they go, I don't know what to do. But to be quite frank, like, again, I embrace the hustle, like, Okay, if they call me tomorrow, and be like, hey, all your TV contracts are canceled be like, well, that's unfortunate, but I know how to bartend I know how to paint cars. I'm not afraid to go get a job. I'm not afraid. Like you just embrace it. I'll figure it out. Like, you know. So you said, you know, part of the hustle is embracing the suck. And I think that's a beautiful segue to talk about that hot mic moment that happened, how many so for context, so there is a racer, who I've raced against who I feel like doesn't nothing has a bad reputation. He's a fine driver, for sure. But like comes from a very wealthy family. And I think kind of has a reputation that goes along with that. And he was racing, I think it was in the XFINITY series, right, or whatever that point. It was an actually an ARCA East race Arca East race. So anyway, established guy in the industry. And he just known for being kind of an asshole sometimes and like, so you were interviewing him at a track. And you know how so how much live pit reporting had you been doing at that point? So I was still pretty new in the sense that I had maybe been working part time for the motor racing network, which you know, broadcasts all of the NASCAR radio races. So I think this was 2019. So I'd maybe been doing it a year and Bristol motor speedway had called me and you know, we have interact public announcements, so PA is what we call it, and you are pumped into all of the suites, the grandstands, the media center, whatever. And then for this race, specifically, there was a live stream also that they decided to take our, our stream to so yeah, I was still new. We were new. But I had some momentum going on my side, which made this even scarier, because I'd kind of burst onto the scene with this. Again, accidental job and had basically you had interviewed him, and then the interview was over. But the mic was still hot. Yes. So are just a quick technical background. People that don't know, we were things called packs when we're on air. And they have a little tiny, it looks like a like a switch box on our hip. And there's a little tiny switch, and there's off. There's on air, and there's production. So when you touch your production, you flip to your production, you can talk into your microphone, and that sends you just to your production people. You can switch it to on air that puts you on air, and then you always just keep it off. Well, our packs, infamously are known at that race specifically for just having some problems. So what we decided was my production button didn't work. So we had to keep me on air. But it was going to be on my producers job to turn me on and off on his board. So I'd always be on. But it was his job to turn me on and off. And this driver had wrecked out like lap one of the race on all over the wall. So I can just see the left side of the car. It's not very damaged, but they decided that it was done. So I interviewed him and he was just like smart with me. And I've always said i You are more than welcome to be as mad as you want on the microphone. But we both have jobs to do. So don't take it out on me. You can say whatever you want in that microphone. But I'm not the problem because You wrecked your racecar, right? That's what I've always said to people. I've been there. I've been the driver. I know how to get angry. We get heated adrenaline a whole weekend. We both have jobs to do, and he like was mouthy with me and walked out of the interview well, in my ear. As soon as that interview was over, my producer had gotten in my ear and made a comment along the lines of like, Oh, he's being a little shithead and I because he'd said that in my ear and rookie mistake had assumed I was cleared from the board had responded to my producer and said what a douchebag iconic moment I just need to say I feel like everyone in the industry agreed with you. But But International. Yeah, like a young professional. I can only imagine like, you know that you've messed up like that's the only way to look at it. Even if everyone agrees with you like you messed up. And you're, as you said, having this momentum and you're going? Can you walk me through, like immediately What was going through your head or when you knew that it was sci fi? I didn't know that it happened. Initially ,oh fun, though. I, you know, had gone back and forth my producer after that, whatever, no big deal. I was standing there, the race resumed going. I usually put my phone on Do Not Disturb in my back pocket. But my watch started going off. And I was like, Oh, that's weird. And I looked down and seen one text message from another industry person. And it said, Oh, my gosh, I cannot believe that just happened. And I was like, oh, lap one. Look, who are we getting? This always happens in ARCA. And then I was like, well, maybe I should start feeding through these. And then I panicked. Because I started to see tweets at me can't believe they were reposting it already. And I got in my ear to my producer. And I was like, hey, that one over the air. And he's like, what? And I was like that one over the air. And he's like, Oh, my gosh, and there's nothing you can do now. Right? He's like, just finish the race. We'll handle it after the fact. And I was like, okay, so we finished the race. I did victory lane, whatever. He called me. Apologizing profusely. He felt so bad about it. Because, you know, we knew the situation, but it was kind of both our faults. And I thought that my job was over. I was like, you get one? You know, I'm so new. And I had some momentum. I was like, Well, this is it. They're gonna be like, Oh, she's a liability. We're out. Fortunately, the industry wholeheartedly had my back. And it became a pretty running it became joke for at least a couple of years. I mean, that driver would have a wreck on track six months down the road at some any given race, and people would tag me in the comments, like, oh, and it was really and it just like, spiraled out of control. And even like, I was waiting for my bosses to call me like my, you know, big NASCAR bosses, my radio bosses, and you know, they call me they were like, hey, learned your lesson. Don't do it again. And I was like, okay, okay. Yeah, sounds good. But, um, fortunately, you know, it's been brought up in a lot of my job interviews moving forward. But all in a very light hearted moment. Like, they get it, you know, what I mean? You're I didn't, and they, I think, now know me well enough that like, my language sometimes can be very colorful. And so that was a very minute. Right situation, right. And that, like, I mean, again, Ben and I were watching it, and now like, we'll be like, Oh, shit. Like, but I think also, like, you know, we've talked a lot about gender dynamics in motorsports. And it's so male dominated, so testosterone dominated and, like, do you feel in some way that that could have actually helped you? Like, I don't know, like, everyone has a different experience in racing, right, but we've talked about it and like, you know, not not going down the selling sex route. And, you know, trying to focus on the craft, and you know, getting that respect in the industry. 100% like, I wish I would have had some stellar interview that would have projected me farther than that situation. But I've heard from maybe not directly to my face, but like, I've heard from male counterparts of mine that have said, like, Oh, if that would have been a guy that would have said that he'd have been fired, but instead, I went viral, because I was a girl. And it was funny. I was like, Well, okay, interesting. I hadn't cool. I hadn't thought like that. You know, I hate to say, I'll take the breaks where I can get them. Yeah, because I feel like sometimes I have to fight a lot harder. So like, if that's something that cut me a break. I'll be the first one to be like, Alright, cool. Yeah. I mean, it did like i i went viral. Like, I like I got me attention that I probably didn't have before. What I again, have liked it in a different manner. Yes. Was I fortunate, very fortunate of how the situation turned out. 1,000% Have I become more cognizant of how I handled myself with equipment? Yeah, yes. But yeah, I mean, like, I feel like it built momentum maybe that I didn't have beforehand. And it's definitely died down over the last couple years. Like, I mean, it got to the point where, like, I was in Canada for a truck race, and I had like, fans yelling at me from across the way. It's so fun, though. And like, it took me a while to embrace it. Like, at first I was just like, okay, can this go away? Can this dynamics, I still didn't know how this was going to affect me. Like it was in the spring of like, 2019. I was in for a contract at the end of the year. Like, I didn't know if that was gonna affect me. At the end. I was like, let me just make sure I've got stability and security before I lean into this. Yeah. And then I could lean into it once I knew I was gonna be okay. Did you make any kind of public apology? Or did you acknowledge it in any contract? I couldn't remember how you did that. Because I think part of it like, I couldn't like when I've talked with people in industry very, like whether it's Team People, you know, more corporate people, like, the overriding response is like, it was a mistake. It's fine, but it could have been a really, especially in a traditionally more conservative sport. Yes, it could have been really big, but I just didn't feel like that was the vibe. And so I'm sure that you had set your reputation a little bit also, but like, how did you kind of publicly deal with it? Or did you not really just kind of like, let it do its thing. So I think I'd originally planned on just like letting it do its thing. But then I had people that I thought I had really respected in the industry coming to me on social media. And again, I think this comes back to the whole, it was people that were like, Oh, if that would have been me, I would have been fired kind of thing. So I like didn't know what to do. I'd called some people that were that I actually respected and that were above me, and was like, do I bring more attention to it by putting an apology out there, which what really helped, I think, set the tone was that Bristol motor speedway was phenomenal about it in the sense that originally, I was like, you know, hey, I understand if this was a Saturday night, and we'd have Sunday cup race, still to come. And I was mortified to go back to the track the next day. And they were like, no, let's lean into it. Let's have fun with this. Because if we cuz I was like, you know, I understand if you like wanting to send me home, whatever, they're like, no, then it's gonna look we fired you, then that's gonna look bad. They're like, it's gonna look way better. If we not only bring you back, but we embrace it. Oh, it was an accident. Let's own it. Let's have fun with it. That's the whole point of this. And they've been nothing but phenomenal about that. And I feel like that helped my mental state also, of having good people above me. They're like, hey, it happens. Everyone has a mulligan, like that afternoon. That evening, we saw the hotel lobby and looked up very well known sports people that have done some way worse things on air, and they still have jobs. And so I think I ended up putting a tweet out there a single tweet, that Eye Kit was just in response to like, you know, made a rookie mistake, it happens. Hopefully, we can all move on and laugh about it. I did it. And that was it. And I just let it die. And yeah, that was my goal. No, that makes sense. And I really like I also really agree with that, like, really owning who you are, what you've done. And I think especially when making mistakes, and like, you know, I think this is relevant, whether we're entrepreneurs or working in corporate or whatever it is, or just like interpersonally that, like, you kind of establish yourself as a person, not just in what you do and how you treat people, but like how you how you lean into what you've done and take ownership. And I think it establishes kind of like, Integrity and Authenticity. And I think more and more now, like, people can spot in authenticity. And like, I think it's okay to be a little more relaxed, a little more vulnerable, and showing that we're human. And I think you're seeing this across industries for the most part. So I really respected that. And like How old were you at the time? Also? Oh, maybe 20? Yeah, like you were a baby. Yeah. And like, I just again, like goes back to a respect for you. Because you're so young, and oh, it's just jealous. But like, like, you know, being able to handle yourself like in on such a big stage for music. I just like I kind of love that. I feel like it can almost like help normalize that for other people as well, which I don't know if that's the kind of role model you want to be but like that it normalizes that people make mistakes, you learn from it well, and I feel like it almost helped get I had this momentum going for me, I feel like it helped set. I don't want to be like the precedent of who I am. Because I don't want to be like known as that. But I have always tried to pitch myself authentically, right. Like I like, you know, one of the things that my producers have always told me is like, your personality comes through on the camera. And at that point in my career, I was still trying to learn how to navigate that, right? Like, should I be the very scripted, uptight presenting stuff, like you just you have to learn how to come into yourself in that role, because you're literally selling your personality on camera. And I feel like that opportunity, or that situation created an opportunity for people to get some insight into my actual personality. Because it is I'm a little bit you know, more rambunctious and a little more, you know, vivacious and that kind of stuff, and maybe comparison to some of the other females that are on camera and whatever, little rough around the edges. And I feel like that provided the opportunity for me to lean into that brand building it was it was an accidental brand building, I was able to lean into it and be like, Okay, I can now kind of sell the I am who I am, you're gonna get what you're gonna get. And people liked that. They knew what they were gonna get with me. Were at the time, I was just, I was I was clay. Probably someone had that not happened could have molded me a little bit better. And then like, Okay, we're gonna Yeah, you know, trim Yep. And we're going to fine tune your edges. And that projected me to be like, Okay, here's what you get. And what I also think, like, and I think you're kind of lucky to have done that so early on, because I think the earlier that we all lean into kind of who we are and that authenticity and setting the tone of how we're going to operate. Like the the sooner you can thrive and grow and build and like something that I kind of wish I had established earlier because I do Definitely let other people mold me and tell me the right way to do things. And as you get older, you realize that like, there are no rules and that sense of like, yes, if an industry had typically been buttoned up and proper and everything like sure, but who's to say that it needs to stay that way. And, you know, any kind of innovation shift or kind of culture shift comes from people taking that step. And so, I think, and I found that in Keynote, speaking, you know, people bring in sometimes stuffy keynote speaker, or sometimes really polished and because I started when I was in my 20s, it was like, I'm a 20 year old racecar driver, like people don't expect me I shouldn't be like all the other keynote speakers. And so I think also, they like that leaning into, like, This is who I am this my personality. And again, as I mentioned, I think being vulnerable, like that makes you so much more relatable, and it creates such a healthier mental state to because you're authentic to yourself, like you're not going to work or you're not going out in public and having to put on something that you're not peaceful. Yeah, and you're not living for other people. And I find that that's like, kind of as a woman in her 30s Now, I find that that's, like, really important because life is short. And you know, I think, you know, we think that's a whole nother conversation, we're gonna have to wrap up because we're at time, but like, like, life is so short. And so the sooner that we can, like, be comfortable with ourselves and authentic and live with that facing outward. I think the more satisfied and like I talked about that a lot like being proud of yourself being content with your life and what you are doing for you and your family and your loved ones. Yeah, that's where the satisfaction is. It sets a really good framework for just like so many other aspects of your life. Totally. Well, Hannah, I had other questions, but we're gonna go back for a second episodes. So I'm I want to end on a rapid fire if you're on it yet. Okay. If your honest window or aisle seat. Oh, window all the time. Copy. Do you see North Carolina as your forever home? Oh, yes. Only because we just bought here. But also, as we record this, it's the middle of summer. And like, I don't know, I feel like I'm suffocating as always, it's only gonna get worse next week. I hate the weather is horrible. Okay, if you're honest, if you got another dog, what would their name be? Because your dog is named Janet. Right? Yeah, it's gonna be a boy. It'd probably be something like Steve. Because it has to be like Janet and Steve. Like, you know what I mean? We gotta like, keep them. The human names. Gotta love that. Last one. What are you most grateful for right now? Oh, I think I'm most grateful for like, the concrete friendships that I've built. Because not being near your family. You have to create your family. And I always tell people, I have some of the most firm, concrete friends that are like lifelong friends. And that's all you can ask for. That's amazing. Well, Hannah Newhouse, thank you so much. Where can people find you on social media? I'm super active on Twitter and Instagram, which is just at Hanna new house. Not on the threads train yet. It's very overwhelming I got on it gives me anxiety. Very overwhelming. I'm a millennial, and it's like too much for me. Yeah, Hannah, thank you so much. I will link everything in the description. Congratulations on being our first guest. I say our the royal we My first guest on if I'm honest. Thank you so much. Well, I'm honored. Thank you again. That is our show. Thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you again, Hannah. If you liked this episode, please share it with a friend please review rate, subscribe to the podcast. And as always, thank you for letting me and Hannah, be honest with you and I look forward to seeing you next week.